I would love to say that violence should be avoided at all costs but that is impossible.*** (check below for explanation) Instead, violence should be minimized at all cost, which sometimes means using violence to prevent more violence.
As a society we have already made this choice. By having a police force and making things illegal, we allow for small violence in arrests and in prison so criminals will not create more violence on innocent victims. Still, who decides what violence to use? Can 435 elected representatives and 100 senators truly represent the wishes of 303,998,204 people? I don’t think so. I don’t think its right to arrest people for using drugs. They have not hurt anyone yet we hurt them. How is that justice?
I think the best way to minimize violence is to minimize government power. Governments have a history of funneling tax money into armies, which promote more violence. The US government tells us they spend 20% of our income tax on defense, but in reality it’s closer to 50%.
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(http://www.warresisters.org/pages/piechart.htm) http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/ArmsTrade/Spending.asp China more or less exchanges weapons for oil in Sudan, exacerbating the human rights crisis. The greatest violence throughout history has only been possible by centralizing power into governmental organizations. When religions become political forces of control, they become violent. It’s pretty hard to research and buy weapons of mass destruction without a ton of money, and it’s pretty hard to justify spending that money without a fanatical ideology that supports it.
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The problem behind governments at our current state of consciousness is that people desire more and more power. Until the world becomes more conscious and our egos become more inclusive, less power will lead to less violence. We need to give individuals and smaller groups greater control over their lives and their communities.
In the meantime, we can use our current government to reduce violence while trying to change it – call your representatives and tell them we want out of Iraq immediately. Tell them you’re pissed that our money is funding torture and brutality. (Texans click here: http://www.fyi.legis.state.tx.us/) Tell them to spend it elsewhere – or better yet tell them to let you keep it and you can decide where to spend it. You can help your own community and help fund things you personally believe in.
We can also work to eliminate the violence we create in our lives by expanding our consciousness. As babies we start out thinking only about ourselves, but as time goes on our “self” becomes more inclusive. As a five year old I didn’t have the mental capacity to sacrifice something of mine for someone else’s benefit– it was all about me. My sister hit me with a Barbie (it really hurt), so I hit her back. As I grew older I became more willing to give up personal gain to help my family. If my sister hit me at age twelve, I’d probably be really confused and just cry. By including my family as an extension of myself, I would never do violence to them. The people I am willing to make sacrifices for continues to grow as I move from an egocentric worldview to an ethnocentric, worldcentric, and hopefully one day kosmocentric sense of self. As a result, I am less and less inclined to violence against these beings. I now only eat free range meat because I can’t stand the way animals are treated before they’re killed. I am willing to make small dietary sacrifices for the benefit of animals that I’ve never known and will never come in contact with. I’m willing to take a few extra seconds to recycle to prune the violence pollution and excess waste might cause in the future. I’m also now able to see how some violence can curtail greater violence. As I continue to grow, I will become more conscious of how my actions cause violence to others and will be more motivated to lessen that impact. I also hope to help make this happen on a massive scale, to keep violence at a minimum.
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Why complete non-violence is impossible: ***Someone is about to throw a grenade into your house, where your entire extended family is happily enjoying a Thanksgiving meal. You’ve been yelling at him to stop as you run towards him, and you have a gun in your hand. You shoot in the air to let him know you’re serious, but he doesn’t care. He’s mad. He pulls the pin, and he rears back to throw. Do you shoot him to save your family? Do you resort to violence to prevent greater injustice?
I think the obvious answer is yes. Can you see any other way to save their lives? This situation may seem completely unreasonable, but it metaphorically happens all the time. If we have actual intelligence about key Al- Qaeda officials in Pakistan (they’re about to throw the grenade!) and President Musharraf is unwilling to act against them, should we throw some bombs their way? Senator Obama recommends it. Do we use force to stop genocide in Northern Uganda, or Sudan? Did we have a right to attack Afghanistan or Iraq? The question becomes, when do we decide to use violence? Who gets to decide whether we drop the A-bomb on the Japanese or wage another war on the ground?
A visiting professor (Prof. Poser) once told me a story about democracy. He was visiting China and someone was arguing about the merits of democracy over communism or vice versa. The point ended up being that democracy is doubtless a very flawed political system. But can anyone think of another system where you can replace your rulers without killing them?
Not to be absolutely certain, is I think, one of the essential things in rationality.
Bertrand Russell in Am I an Atheist or an Agnostic (1947)
I think it's important to recognize that there can be freedom within order. I am free to drive where I want...so long as I drive under (or close to) the speed limit, I drive in correct lanes, and I use my headlights at night, etc. This is a simple example, but government plays a crucial role: it should provide public order and basic security. I agree with the above posts suggesting our government is far, far too large and controlling, but it's important not to take that too far. We need government, and for a nation of 300 million people, that's going to be large any way you look at it.
I think our problem with government today is that it tries to do too many things: health care, education, social security, world policing, philanthropy...these things are not necessarily "wrong" but the degree of government involvement in all these things inflates it's size far beyond what I believe is in the best interest of us all. So to Jordan's original post: I believe less government would reduce violence, but only up to a point, and after that I believe there would be more, because there would be less order. There is a fine and difficult balance which we must seek to find.
But can anyone think of another system where you can replace your rulers without killing them?
Just because it doesn't currently exist doesn't mean can't discover it.
I believe less government would reduce violence, but only up to a point, and after that I believe there would be more, because there would be less order
The problem is that government can't be funded without violence. Government is inherently violent. We don't know what life would be like without government because we haven't tried it out yet.
No, people are inherently violent. Because people make governments, governments sometimes do violent things. However, the purpose of government is to actually stem the amount of violence. Proper government maintains public order and protects the people, thus resulting in less violence overall. No government is anarchy. Yes, it has been tried. No, it does not lead to less violence.
explain to me how you believe government gets its money and then explain how that isn't violent. If paying for government was optional then it wouldn't be government.
The only semi anarchic system of government that has existed was medieval Iceland where they even had a private judicial system. That worked fine for them. It is important to note that there has to be a radical decentralization of government first.
Since when are people inherently violent? That is a very broad generalization based on the fact that violence exists. If people could be convinced that violence is not inherent how could that change the role violence plays in society? Does saying that violence is inherent serve as an excuse to allow it? I'm not contending that we can actually put an end to violence, but it is amazing how people's perspectives on issues significantly influence their lives. Now that may seem obvious, but as an example, people who meditate on compassion and happiness tend to be happier and more compassionate because they are practicing those emotions and becoming better at them. As for government being violent or anarchy being a better method... I think the issue here is that all humans have a very subject experience of reality and attempting to impress any type of system across a large and diverse population usually causes friction. I would argue that one is probably similarly as violent or peaceful as the other. If we begin to reorganize our society to more localized communities filled with compassionate people we might see a significant shift in the amount of violence our culture.